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The most highly touted aspect of the humane Norwegian prison system is the fact that it seems to work. Crime rates are very low and the recidivism rate is a mere 20%. Where else could I conclude my journey? I know what to expect; I'm one of the many believers ogling this system. Whether it lives up to the hype is the real question.

Can Norway at last take me to that elusive thing I've been searching for in full, flourishing form: justice?"Prison?" I ask two deckhands, after the train has carried me to the ferry and now I've boarded a small vessel hopefully bound for Bastoy Island.https://www.businessinsider.com/norways-prisons-are-better-than-the-american-prisons-2018-6
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Impressive! This should be done by other countries too.
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Share your thoughts about this prison?
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Rehabilitation, re-education and reintegration is important but how about we return the death penalty for career criminals and serious offenders.
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Rehabilitation, re-education and reintegration is important but how about we return the death penalty for career criminals and serious offenders.
And what of the legal system accidentally convicts the wrong person and sentences them to death? That and outside of the whole moral dilemma of why the death sentence was abolished, that would be a bad idea.
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Rehabilitation, re-education and reintegration is important but how about we return the death penalty for career criminals and serious offenders.
The death penalty doesn't work, look at the complete failure of the US.
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The death penalty doesn't work, look at the complete failure of the US.
That's because they never had it abolished, if they abolished it like it is in Australia and reintroduced it, it'd have more shock value. America also puts people to death 'quite often' in world standards. If in the Australian system there are less death penalty rulings it should hold more power. Try to imagine the shock and awe around the first person put to death for murder. It'd be almost like the nuclear bomb been used in war, it was done and now even the threat of using the bomb is a deterrent. As I said above, it'd take some legislation and time to figure out the kinks but it could work. If it didn't we abolish it again and learn that it doesn't work.
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That's because they never had it abolished, if they abolished it like it is in Australia and reintroduced it, it'd have more shock value. America also puts people to death 'quite often' in world standards. If in the Australian system there are less death penalty rulings it should hold more power. Try to imagine the shock and awe around the first person put to death for murder. It'd be almost like the nuclear bomb been used in war, it was done and now even the threat of using the bomb is a deterrent. As I said above, it'd take some legislation and time to figure out the kinks but it could work. If it didn't we abolish it again and learn that it doesn't work.
Hmm, you have no evidence to support that opinion. Grossly speaking killings occur either impulsively in which case arguing deterrence is a nonsense or they are crimes committed by serious criminals who face being killed by other criminals in much more unpleasant ways so again arguing deterrence is a nonsense.
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So, the idea is to abolish it every six months, and then reintroduce it every other six months.
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Hmmmm robbery and drug addiction could be a good place to start this sort of rehab.
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